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	<title>Comments on: Erin Pizzey: An Open Letter to Women in the Domestic Violence Movement</title>
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		<title>By: steve deluca</title>
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		<dc:creator>steve deluca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Mar 2010 02:44:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>DV is about untreated survivors of child abuse failing in life, living lower class, stressed out, and losing it.  Male of female that is where most of the violence comes from and gender hasn&#039;t anything to do with it.

Oh, and the wage gap, read Warren Farrell&#039;s &quot;Why Men Earn More&quot; or go to 20/20 Stossel, &quot;Why Men Earn More&quot; and learn something beyond what women&#039;s groups claim.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>DV is about untreated survivors of child abuse failing in life, living lower class, stressed out, and losing it.  Male of female that is where most of the violence comes from and gender hasn&#8217;t anything to do with it.</p>
<p>Oh, and the wage gap, read Warren Farrell&#8217;s &#8220;Why Men Earn More&#8221; or go to 20/20 Stossel, &#8220;Why Men Earn More&#8221; and learn something beyond what women&#8217;s groups claim.</p>
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		<title>By: escapedthedarkprincess</title>
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		<dc:creator>escapedthedarkprincess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know I will be mocked by this but here goes. I believe domestic violence has very little to do with gender, but is everything to do with pathology. I have known both men and women to be violent, sometimes over nothing. I knew a woman who suffered from borderline personality disorder and when she raged she did not care if she hit, scratched, bit, or did damage to property. Look at that tv show snapped, seems like a lot of females can easily hurt a man. Its not gender, it is pathology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know I will be mocked by this but here goes. I believe domestic violence has very little to do with gender, but is everything to do with pathology. I have known both men and women to be violent, sometimes over nothing. I knew a woman who suffered from borderline personality disorder and when she raged she did not care if she hit, scratched, bit, or did damage to property. Look at that tv show snapped, seems like a lot of females can easily hurt a man. Its not gender, it is pathology.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;I&gt;I am about ready to throw up. Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then. And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.Ã¢â‚¬Â GeezÃ¢â‚¬Â¦&lt;/i&gt;

Isn&#039;t funny that when speak up about being excluded its a call to arms but when men do it its &quot;bashing&quot;?  Nancy here is a prime example of the type of people who more than likely doesn&#039;t support the idea of male victims getting help.

Based on you line of logic:

I&#039;m about ready to throw up.  Instead of spending some much time bashing men why don&#039;t they just fix that damn wage gap themselves?  All they have to do is start their own companies where they can set their own wages right?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I am about ready to throw up. Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then. And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.Ã¢â‚¬Â GeezÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</i></p>
<p>Isn&#8217;t funny that when speak up about being excluded its a call to arms but when men do it its &#8220;bashing&#8221;?  Nancy here is a prime example of the type of people who more than likely doesn&#8217;t support the idea of male victims getting help.</p>
<p>Based on you line of logic:</p>
<p>I&#8217;m about ready to throw up.  Instead of spending some much time bashing men why don&#8217;t they just fix that damn wage gap themselves?  All they have to do is start their own companies where they can set their own wages right?</p>
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		<title>By: gwallan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Nancy Carrol...

&lt;i&gt;And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.&lt;/i&gt;

Giving a gender neutral title to gender specific service does nothing to alter it&#039;s prejudices.

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.clarku.edu/faculty/dhines/results.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;What Happens When Male DV Victims Ask for Help?&lt;/a&gt; 

A recent survey by Dr. Denise Hines of 302 abused men found these men routinely faced sex discrimination when they sought help from DV hotlines, shelters, and service providers .

&lt;i&gt;The key findings were: 63.9% of men who called hotlines were told they only help women, and 68.7% said the hotlines were not at all helpful. Of those that contacted a local DV shelter program, 95.3% said the program gave the impression that they were biased against men, 78.3% said they donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t help male victims, and 63.9% suggested the male caller was the batterer.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Nancy Carrol&#8230;</p>
<p><i>And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.</i></p>
<p>Giving a gender neutral title to gender specific service does nothing to alter it&#8217;s prejudices.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.clarku.edu/faculty/dhines/results.htm" rel="nofollow">What Happens When Male DV Victims Ask for Help?</a> </p>
<p>A recent survey by Dr. Denise Hines of 302 abused men found these men routinely faced sex discrimination when they sought help from DV hotlines, shelters, and service providers .</p>
<p><i>The key findings were: 63.9% of men who called hotlines were told they only help women, and 68.7% said the hotlines were not at all helpful. Of those that contacted a local DV shelter program, 95.3% said the program gave the impression that they were biased against men, 78.3% said they donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t help male victims, and 63.9% suggested the male caller was the batterer.</i></p>
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		<title>By: gwallan</title>
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		<dc:creator>gwallan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 23:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;b&gt;Nancy Carroll said...&lt;/b&gt;

&lt;i&gt;I am about ready to throw up. Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then. And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.Ã¢â‚¬Â GeezÃ¢â‚¬Â¦&lt;/i&gt;

Ah, equality in action.

Two thirds of government revenue comes from the pockets of men. They are not only refused help by agencies they fund in the majority they are also subjected to ridicule if they try to seek help. Womens groups have taken legal steps using taxpayer funds to prevent men from setting up alternatives. They have disrupted meetings set up for the same purpose. In my country they stopped providing services out of spite after government instructed them to help everybody. Future welfare workers are being taught that male victims should be disbelieved. By avowed feminists. 


Thankyou Nancy for demonstrating the ongoing selfishness and bigotry that denies help to those who need it. I&#039;m not surprised you are ready to &quot;throw up&quot;. Your attitude, whilst typical, is truly nauseating.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><b>Nancy Carroll said&#8230;</b></p>
<p><i>I am about ready to throw up. Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why donÃ¢â‚¬â„¢t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then. And by the way, it is the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National Domestic Violence HotlineÃ¢â‚¬Â not the Ã¢â‚¬Å“National WomenÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s Hotline.Ã¢â‚¬Â GeezÃ¢â‚¬Â¦</i></p>
<p>Ah, equality in action.</p>
<p>Two thirds of government revenue comes from the pockets of men. They are not only refused help by agencies they fund in the majority they are also subjected to ridicule if they try to seek help. Womens groups have taken legal steps using taxpayer funds to prevent men from setting up alternatives. They have disrupted meetings set up for the same purpose. In my country they stopped providing services out of spite after government instructed them to help everybody. Future welfare workers are being taught that male victims should be disbelieved. By avowed feminists. </p>
<p>Thankyou Nancy for demonstrating the ongoing selfishness and bigotry that denies help to those who need it. I&#8217;m not surprised you are ready to &#8220;throw up&#8221;. Your attitude, whilst typical, is truly nauseating.</p>
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		<title>By: Nancy Carroll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nancy Carroll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:25:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am about ready to throw up.  Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why don&#039;t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then.  And by the way, it is the &quot;National Domestic Violence Hotline&quot; not the &quot;National Women&#039;s Hotline.&quot;  Geez...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am about ready to throw up.  Instead of spending so much time bashing women, why don&#8217;t these guys and you open some shelters for guys only then.  And by the way, it is the &#8220;National Domestic Violence Hotline&#8221; not the &#8220;National Women&#8217;s Hotline.&#8221;  Geez&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Danny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 20:08:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;There should of course, also be some support groups, shelter help, and crisis lines specifically aimed and publicized as such for men-what man for example, would even think to call a crisis line that called itself a Ã¢â‚¬Å“womanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s crisis line.Ã¢â‚¬Â Of course, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s automatically excluded.&lt;/i&gt;
And I&#039;m willing to bet that many women&#039;s advocates won&#039;t even notice that.  Which is odd considering how often women oppose something on the grounds that it excludes women.

&lt;I&gt;As women, we can not claim perfection and ask to be put on a pedestal any longer, and most women no longer desire that, but to make that change, we must also accept responsibility for our own actions or lack of action.&lt;/i&gt;
Hear Hear!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>There should of course, also be some support groups, shelter help, and crisis lines specifically aimed and publicized as such for men-what man for example, would even think to call a crisis line that called itself a Ã¢â‚¬Å“womanÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s crisis line.Ã¢â‚¬Â Of course, heÃ¢â‚¬â„¢s automatically excluded.</i><br />
And I&#8217;m willing to bet that many women&#8217;s advocates won&#8217;t even notice that.  Which is odd considering how often women oppose something on the grounds that it excludes women.</p>
<p><i>As women, we can not claim perfection and ask to be put on a pedestal any longer, and most women no longer desire that, but to make that change, we must also accept responsibility for our own actions or lack of action.</i><br />
Hear Hear!!</p>
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